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Most important to me is that you find Jesus. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. This totally depends on someone as a person. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. This brings out their dark side. Lilith conjunct Ascendant I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". Groom conjunct the Vertex. We have no moon aspects will this help? That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. My sun and deja are on his nn. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Not sure which one id prefer. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. You never want to leave your beloveds side until they put you in the grave. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. So the theory doesnt check out. 1) Planetary house overlays (1, 5, 7, 8, 9 = most important) 2) Planetary aspects. . Great questions. Thank you, Lo and Welcome Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. Did you know I had one? Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. Well, I have been thinking about the situation. Could it be a past life meaning? Thank you so much, Love. They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. I feel like it helps me. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. My Nessus square his Venus I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. It is just the North Node, after all, not a personal planet. Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? Thank you, Kay <3 It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Since Aries is ruled by Mars, there's a . I agree with Sydney. Would you say that a double whammy Nessus OPPOSITE Juno is something dangerous too ? Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. Amazingly accurate. This is based on experience and charts, as are all my theories. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? Dejanira is the victim asteroid. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. We do not have enough information on every aspect, and never will because again, no interpretation is set in stone to be able to tell someone that something is most certainly going to happen. Eros thrills, scares and creates intense bonds. I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. This would take a whole chart reading. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. 1) What does it mean to have dejanira 13 in conjuction with my ascendant 12? To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. It always starts this way. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. That`s very interesting information. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. the Moons will make for best friends. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? The charts tell all. Yes, that is a good way to put it. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. What about this aspects? PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. You do not have to do their chart. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. Your analysis is lovely. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. Hi I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. I am not asking you to do mine either. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. Love, A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. Ami is an insightful astrology. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. . Is this you? Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? 8. I read some things. Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. I think you will have the urge to abuse. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. I have moon opposition pluto. The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. Or can my Sun hurt the person. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. The conjunction is excact. And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. Or can both apply? His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). It is not as intense as the conjunction but very intense, nonetheless. Thank you, amiann. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. Hey there! Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . However, there is a flip side. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. Hi Amiann 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. I hope I can do this in my articles. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. You both feel admiration for each other. I am so intrigued!!! M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Who would bring who abuse? I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. It is a pleasure to be here. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! I am sorry. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Posts: 9778 From: Death Star . my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. If you know, let me know! Please, keep giving your opinion. . That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. The chart never lies, my Friend. Its not a square but there isnt much info out there on the conjunction. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. It is desire, it is passion and love. Mars conj Saturn is not good. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. What are your thoughts? Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. First of all Lilith is for . If the man is the Dejanira, he would be the victim. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. Good afternoon, thank you for this article Welcome, Britt. Would appreciate some insight!! We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. That is my commitment to my readers. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. I know my life, and what manifests in it. Next: Synastry Books Compared . Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. YOU are the most important person to me. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. I hear your concern. It would simply be different. I dont do the Draconic. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. But interested to see how things unfold. so, quick question, where do I post it? I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. What do you think? Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. Yes, I was thinking about this. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Do you have any advice for me? 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. Thanks :), I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. To me, it always is. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). No worries. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. Will be keeping my wits about me. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. The Moon person feels comforted by the Sun person's energy and the Sun person feels like they can be vulnerable with the Moon person. I would have to consider the scenarios more. Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. This is not dark sexual, per se. The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? It is very, very powerful. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, And Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. This is not to say it would be better or even easier. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. Thank you, Amiann. If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! thank you again for being so welcoming, Thank you so much, Sovietlana! Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry.